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PEKKA (women heads of households NGO in Indonesia) founder & director and SEAPCP (Southeast Asia Popular Communications Programme) chairperson Nani Zulminarni (green head scarf and long sleeve t-shirt), INSIST (Indonesian Society for Social Transformation) senior leader Roem Topatimasang (green cap, red t-shirt) and SEAPCP coordinator Tan Jo Hann (moustache, grey t-shirt) talks about different aspects of community organising.